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Thinking about moving from Wolverine to KLOW for my shoulder

Posted by fasted_scientist in Protocols & Stacks - 10 points, 5 comments.

I have been running the Wolverine stack for about six weeks now to deal with this nagging shoulder issue. I have been doing 500mcg of BPC-157 daily and 2.5mg of TB-500 twice a week. Ngl, it seemed to help with the general stiffness, but the actual tendon pain is still lingering quite a bit.

I am considering switching over to the KLOW stack to see if adding the KPV and GHK-Cu makes a difference. The idea is to get that extra anti-inflammatory hit from the KPV and maybe some better tissue remodeling from the GHK-Cu. For me, the TB-500 and BPC-157 parts are fine, but I am not sure if the complexity of KLOW is actually worth it compared to just sticking with the basics.

Has anyone here actually made the jump from the standard BPC/TB combo to the full KLOW setup for joint stuff? I am curious if you noticed a significant difference in how the actual injury felt, or if it just felt like more work for the same result. I am also a bit wary of the GHK-Cu side effects like the flushing.

Comments

  • tracker_jade: I swapped Wolverine for KLOW on a nagging shoulder after six weeks of BPC/TB helped stiffness but left sharp pain. I kept the same BPC and TB doses, added 500mcg KPV twice daily and 1mg GHK‑Cu subQ every other day. Anecdotally the morning ache eased a bit after two weeks, but I got noticeable flushing and a little skin tingling with the GHK‑Cu. It felt like extra work for a modest gain, so I’m wondering if anyone saw a bigger jump in actual tendon pain relief or if it’s mostly just the anti‑inf
  • kim609: For what it is worth, i had a similar experience with the ghk-cu flushing. It was pretty annoying. I reckon the kpv helped with the inflammation more than the actual tendon repair, but it didnt feel like a massive jump. I was taking the kpv every morning to keep things steady. Maybe check your bloods if the tingling persists.
  • fasted_scientist: Ngl I was worried about the GHK-Cu flushing, so it is good to know it is a common thing. I was hoping the KPV would do more for the actual tendon, but if you reckon it just helps with inflammation, that might not be enough for this specific injury. I am still a bit unsure about the complexity though. Do you think the KPV was actually worth the extra hassle if the repair side was a bit meh?
  • fasted_scientist: Ngl, I was a bit worried about the extra work too, but your experience with the GHK-Cu flushing sounds a bit intense. I was thinking of doing the KPV in the mornings and then the GHK-Cu just before bed, but that tingling bit makes me wonder if I should space them out more. Did the flushing from the GHK-Cu go away after a few days or did it stick around for the whole time?
  • tracker_jade: Anecdotally I saw less swelling with KPV but the deep tendon ache didn’t budge much. If repair is the main goal the extra hassle didn’t feel worth it for me. Did you try pairing it with something that targets collagen synthesis?

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