Mind Lab Pro piece on consumers moving away from stims toward nootropics
Posted by restless_swims in Cognitive & Nootropic - 3 points, 6 comments.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/avantera-elevate-voted-1-nootropic-150500180.html
Came across it on Nutrition Insight, basically a write up around Mind Lab Pro's own survey about people swapping caffeine and stims for "broader" brain support stacks. Says the "more is more" crowd is finally cooling off and people want more balanced cognitive stuff.
Not gonna lie, this lines up with what I keep seeing in coaching. The lads who used to slam three coffees before a session are now asking me about L-theanine, creatine, Lion's mane, the usual. Honestly the timing makes sense, everyone is wrecked from poor sleep and they are trying to fix focus without being wired.
The part I take with a pinch of salt is the marketing bit at the bottom, of course they want you to buy their stack. The actual trend though feels real. Anyone here actually made the full swap off stims, or do you still keep a bit of caffeine in the mix?
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Comments
- grinder_daily: For me it was gradual, not a clean swap. I dropped my second coffee after lunch because it was wrecking my sleep and honestly that was the whole unlock π once the sleep got better I didnt need as much stim in the first place. Now I do one coffee in the morning, sometimes a small one if I train early, and thats it. I use L-theanine on days I have to write a lot of pages for school, it smooths me out without making me feel like a zombie. Creatine daily, lions mane a couple times a week. I still
- restless_swims: Same here, the second coffee after lunch was my whole problem and I didn't clock it for ages. Sleep got better within maybe a week of cutting it and the afternoon slump just stopped being a thing? Now I do one morning coffee, sometimes a weak one if I'm coaching early, and that does me. The L-theanine tip is sound, I find it best on days I'm writing programmes, not gonna lie it takes the edge off without flattening me out. Did the creatine actually do anything for you focus wise or more for tra
- practical_codes: Yeah that tracks for me too. The afternoon cup was the sneaky one, didnt even realize how much it was messing with me till I dropped it. Sleep came back around and honestly everything else got easier. Lions mane a couple times a week is pretty much what I do as well, keeps the stack simple.
- restless_swims: Oh the afternoon cup is such a classic culprit, right? Most people never even clock it as the problem. Lions mane a couple times a week sounds dead sensible, I keep meaning to be more consistent with mine, I go through phases of forgetting to reorder it π©. Did you just go cold turkey off caffeine or taper it down? I find when I tell clients to cut it out they last about two days and then turn into zombies.
- tracker_jade: Anecdotally the focus thing felt more like a training carryover for me, if that makes sense. Like I could push harder in sessions so mental fatigue was lower by afternoon, not that it directly sharpened anything. Some guys swear by it for brain fog though so maybe it hits different people differently. I definitely notice it more for recovery than cognition personally.
- restless_swims: Yeah that's a good shout actually, I'd say similar. When I cut back on coffee I didn't feel "smarter" as such but I stopped getting that awful 3pm crash where I couldn't string a sentence together in class π the recovery side is probably the real win, hard to notice unless you're paying attention to sleep quality too.
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