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CJC + GHRP-2 on an empty stomach at 3am, does that even matter or am I just ritualising?

Posted by fasted_scientist in GH & Growth Peptides - 4 points, 6 comments.

Bit of a devils advocate question this. Everyone bangs on about gh pulse timing, fasted state, no carbs blabla, and i'm doing 100/100 cjc + ghrp-2 about half an hour before bed most nights, but i've also been doing a middle of the night dose on training days because i read somewhere that a second pulse before the big sleep window might stack.

Honestly i'm not sure it's doing anything more than my pre-bed dose. I've never actually had IGF-1 pulled while running both vs just one, and i'd rather not guess. Has anyone here actually compared single nightly dosing to a split protocol with bloods, or is it all just bro logic at this point?

Ngl the hunger from the ghrp-2 is the part that actually annoys me more than the timing worry. Been considering swapping to ipa just to lose that side, but i keep hearing the gh pulse is weaker so idk if it's a fair trade. Curious what others reckon.

Comments

  • calm_runs: Ngl the split protocol thing has always felt like bro logic to me too, no idea if anyone actually has clean bloodwork comparing it. One pulse at night seems plenty for most people i've seen talk about it, the second dose might just be adding hunger and not much else. Could be placebo either way tbh. If the ghrp-2 hunger is bugging you, ipa is the move a lot of people make for that exact reason. Weaker pulse is a fair concern but if you actually tolerate ipa better and can stay consistent, that
  • mom_kenji: Yeah the split thing has always struck me as basically ritual too. One solid pre-bed dose on an empty stomach has worked fine for me, no bloodwork to back it up but sleep quality and recovery have been consistent without the 3am wakeup. And good call on the ghrp hunger, thats the part that would drive me up the wall more than anything. Does ipa actually give you a noticeable difference in pulse strength or is it more about just being able to stay on it longer?
  • tiredmira: Yeah the hunger from ghrp-2 was kinda the worst part for me too, i switched to ipa for that exact reason. My morning fasting glucose numbers were kinda jumpy on ghrp-2 nights and leveled out after, could be coincidence tho. Never actually pulled bloods on split vs single so i cant speak to that part 😅
  • fasted_scientist: Cheers for that, good to hear it wasn't just me getting wound up about the hunger. The glucose thing is interesting actually, hadn't clocked that as a possible knock on effect. Did you notice any difference in recovery or sleep quality after switching, or was it pretty much a straight swap minus the hunger? I've been going back and forth on whether the weaker pulse is worth losing the side, but if it's a clean trade then I might just pull the trigger.
  • fasted_scientist: Honestly yeah that's kind of where my head's at. Ipa is meant to give a cleaner, more selective pulse with less prolactin and hunger side effects, but a lot of people report it feeling weaker overall compared to ghrp-2. No idea if that's real or just because the hunger was masking the gh release feeling or whatever. For me the bigger question is whether sticking with ghrp-2 long term is sustainable when i'm waking up at 3am to raid the fridge every other night, lol. Might just run ipa for a mon
  • fasted_scientist: Cheers, that tracks with my gut feeling tbh. You're basically saying what i've been mumbling to myself for weeks: the second dose might just be the hunger tax for nothing extra. I think i'll drop the 3am shot for a month and see if sleep feels any different (i usually wake up starving around 4am which is a pain). On ipa, how did the pulse actually feel to you for recovery or sleep quality, weaker in a noticeable way or just on paper? That's the bit i can't tell from reading alone.

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